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A Thing Or Two We’re Doing Besides Shelling Out

Did we cry before we talked to this week’s podcast guest? Yes. Did we cry while talking to this week’s podcast guest? Also yes. Listen, the photographer Gillian Laub’s latest project—about family and America’s political climate—really is so moving that you need to hear about it directly from her. Also: If you’ve been thinking about giving Secret Menu a shot, we’re donating September new-member monies to the International Refugee Assistance Project, which rallies law students and lawyers to support legal and human rights for refugees and displaced persons.

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A Thing Or Two We’re Doing Besides Putting The Pieces Together

Do you all remember the the intriguing classified ad that ran in this very newsletter seeking a deep and meaningful friendship? WELL! This week on the podcast, we caught up with Katie Seaver, the equally intriguing woman who wrote it, to kick off a *friendship grab bag* episode. One other topic of discussion: How juvenile is it to name friend groups—or at least their associated group chats? WB with your thoughts!

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Loafing Around

Do we have thoughts on hair length, produce refrigeration, and the best product descriptions on the internet? Of course we do, and you’ll find them all on this week’s podcast episode. If you’re a new listener lookin’ for a place to start, here are some greatest hits, too.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Looking Ahead to Fall and Spring

It’s the heat of the summer, and we’re seeking relief in fast food and oysters...and you can too this week on the podcast. If you’re looking for a good read for a day at the beach, in the park, or with some serious A/C, we have plenty of thoughts on that, too.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Bugging Out

If we’re being honest, we had a surprisingly good time talking to Nora McInerny about supporting loved ones dealing with grief, loss, and hard stuff in general. We think you will too? If there are other things you’d like us to dig into in upcoming podcast episodes, let us know—just WB to this email, even.

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  • Finding myself bringing up Learning in Public in more conversations than not.

  • Scouring the internet for Tokyo Olympics posters...from 1964. So good!

  • Finally (finally!) getting an answer to a) what pickleball is exactly and b) why it’s become such a thing all of the sudden.

  • Setting a calendar alert for the release of a kid’s collection because it’s just that charming. Come on with this wall hook!

  • Subscribing enthusiastically to the fun scale, a reference created for outdoor activities that’s extremely useful in all areas of life.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Taking Our Time

You know, we always love New York, but this week on the podcast, we’re getting into exactly what it is about the city that’s really doing it for us right now. Related, this month’s new Secret Menu subscriptions will support a local-to-us org that’s been hard at work for 25 years: The Lower East Side Girls Club, which provides free programming in arts, sciences, leadership, entrepreneurship, and wellness for young women and gender-expansive youth.

erica’s things

  • Getting some tremendously helpful admin support from Squared Away, which works with a top-notch team of military spouses.

  • Taking advantage of sbagliato weather with this stuff, which is like Campari on a chill pill.

  • Heading here whenever I need a dose of truly charming weirdness.

  • Drawing on the glidiest eyeliner I have ever encountered.

claire’s things

  • Feeling more enthusiastic about a drink mixer than I realized possible.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Ringing in a New Week

erica’s things

  • Breaking a sweat reading The Second Season, about ambition, motherhood, and the NBA Finals.

  • Skipping the moisturizers, the serums, the anything elses on the nights when I use this hard-working stuff.

  • Nodding, nodding: Yes, Ring Pop jewelry is a natural extension of the color-happy look happening just about everywhere else.

  • Unlocking the secret to shucking oysters with ease: grilling ‘em first. (Put this on them after—and on many other things also, probably!)

claire’s things

  • Replacing our stained, fraying, always-askew kitchen rug with something that’s truly made for the task.

  • Partaking in a board game that is the perfect length and level of complexity to accompany an after-dinner drink.

  • Putting a personal guarantee on this insane BBQ sauce—if you don’t like it, just send it to me.

  • Wearing these three days in one week and planning to repeat as necessary for as long as this humidity sticks around.

  • Discovering that Field + Supply—a legendary upstate New York maker fair—now does e-comm. Major.


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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Having Our Cake

In recording this week’s podcast, we realized that 1) we’ve been friends for 19 years 2) we should probably make some big plans for our 20th anniversary and 3) we really have a whole lot to say about our relationship. You can hear all about it here, and if you’re looking for more in this vein, head on over to Call Your Girlfriend for their quite charming Summer of Friendship series—our chat is part of that, too, and in such good company!

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Pooling our Resources

If you’re here because you like our recs, then you’re going to want to hit play on our podcast’s latest Thingies installment, in which we crown our best-in-category picks, from a knife sharpener to a liquid bandage (useful pairing?). If you want even more, Secret Menu is for you, and this month’s new-member money goes to Participatory Defense Movement NOLA, which gives justice-involved citizens the legal tools they need for court cases. (More on the couple behind the org in this epic doc.)

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  • Relishing a fancy room spray that would make an especially good housewarming gift.

  • Grasping at straws—er, starches—that might diminish the amount of sand that enters my home post-beach.

  • ...Especially considering Ita is making seaside jaunts seem particularly appealing right now.

  • Wondering why I’ve never attempted homemade ice-cream cake before last weekend. A (very easy) hit!

  • Clocking a major milestone: a muggy afternoon in the backyard with zero (zero!!) bug bites. Thermacell, take a bow.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Contemplating Getting Dressed

What are we wearing? What are you wearing? We’re in the mood to talk about fashion, and there’s really no one better to do it with than Lauren Chan, the founder of the oh-so-chic and size-inclusive line Henning. Tune into the podcast for what clothing is calling her name and—speaking of trending topics—our discussion of, um, baby birds.

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claire’s things

  • Sucking the itch out of bug bites.

  • Embracing the miracle—and joy—of this powdered CBD. It really does work (for me!). It’s 20% off with the code ATHINGORTWO, too. #SPONSORED

  • Recognizing that I’ve been taking the beauty of the Arby’s sign for granted. It’s so good! (As is the Instagram account that brought this oversight to my attention.)

  • Rocking an anklet with those denim shorts I told you about.

  • Considering the breastfeeding vs. formula decision in a different light.

  • Suggesting you jump to around the 16-minute mark of this to hear some truly legendary radio drama.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Layering Flowers on Flowers

What might a person put on a wedding registry? And what’s the latest with Flea? So glad you asked: We’re digging into both topics on this week’s podcast episode. And, if you want a deeper dive into our registry recs (or, you know, just a thorough guide to a bunch of cute stuff to put on your kitchen table, from glassware to flatware), Secret Menu subscribers can access the whole shebang.

erica’s things

  • Becoming a person who packs a yoga mat in her suitcase. This one really does fold up so small! And lunges on a towel really are a bad idea!

  • Giving frozen pizza a new lease on life.

  • Never daring to consider what would happen if Broad City bumped into Notting Hill but experiencing the joy of that meet-cute anyway.

  • Getting my hands on a cookbook that’s luring me out of a months-long cooking rut.

  • Smoothing this body oil over exposed limbs for a fakey summer glow. Friends, the smell.

claire’s things

  • Finding a perfect jean short after years of trial and error—size up once or twice, unless you’re doing hot pants summer.

  • Arriving quite late to the fact that Courier is so good—if you like this newsletter and you like(d) Bloomberg Businessweek, you’ll like this magazine.

  • Incorporating these into my bedtime routine.

  • Basking in the luxury of continuous spray SPF without the guilt of aerosol.

  • Going absolutely nuts for the most special vases I’ve seen in a good long while.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Watching It

Ladies, gentlemen, and esteemed associates, today on the podcast, we bring you an icon: Atoosa Rubenstein. If that name doesn’t ring a bell, well, all the more reason to listen—and to leave us a review to let us know which eps and topics are really doing it for you.

erica’s things

  • Planning weekend walks around where I can score the best mangonadas in NYC. (This is me sourcing your recs. WBASAP.)

  • Delighting in this perfect little novella, which might be just the thing to get you out of a reading rut if you’re in one?

  • Hoping, praying for a cookbook from La Copine for the 364 days a year when I’m not near Joshua Tree. The story behind this place!

  • Treating my sun-chapped skin to this stuff, which sinks in way better than you’d think given how rich and soothing it is.

  • Wanting my future concert-theater experiences to look a little something like this.

claire’s things

  • Taking care of those bumps on the backs of my arms.

  • Telling Flik and Flak to watch their backs.

  • Cheering on Fully Funded for helping freelancers figure out parental leave.

  • Finding room in my heart and my home for another tote—one so good it makes me wish we still had a store so we could sell it ourselves.

  • Developing a thing for vintage flatware.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Finding Gems in the Junk Drawer

We fell short this week on the podcast: We taste-tested snacks and dove into Claire’s new go-to beauty products but somehow failed to merge the two in a discussion of hair masks you can eat. Next time. Until then, if you’re looking for more from us, might we recommend signing up for Secret Menu? This month’s new subscriber dollars go to the National Network of Abortion Funds and the org’s work tackling financial and logistical barriers to abortion access. And in this week’s installment of Secret Menu, we’re talking about camp food, Barbra Streisand, the clothes we keep forever, and compost bins. You must be curious, right?

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Identifying a Cottage Industry

This week on the podcast: We’re letting in the summer breeze, we’re carving out time for creative projects—can you tell we’re ready for a fresh start?! The other thing on our minds right now: Tomorrow will be a year since George Floyd’s murder. There’s so much to be said about it, most of it not by us. If you’re leveling-up your commitment to dismantling white supremacy, check out Barnraisers, which teaches white people what it means to organize for racial equity and how to do it. We’re part of the current cohort, and we’re looking forward to sharing more about our experience.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Considering a CD Collection

This week on the podcast, we’re talking about drinking less booze and eating less meat—and promising we’re still plenty of fun to hang out with in spite of that. Should you have thoughts/feelings to share, our voicemail box is ready and waiting: 833-632-5463.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Striking a Match

Oh, what a joy it is to catch up with Amanda Hesser—the co-founder of Food52, a site we visit with embarrassing frequency—about how she’s coping, what dinnertime looks like at her house, and the cooking tools she’s leaning on hard. Also, if you’re into this newsletter, tell a friend or three? We especially love a you-approved subscriber.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Appreciating a Good Stalk

If, like us, you have no interest in running around for meetings but some interest in running in general, this week’s podcast episode is for you. As is this week’s installment of Secret Menu, which is full of links that’ll help you become the next Shalane Flanagan (or, similarly aspirationally, a committed jogger). And if you’ve been looking for an excuse to subscribe, maybe the fact that this month’s new-member $$ goes to Supernova Women, an org creating a space for women of color in cannabis, is it.

erica’s things

  • Anointing Harrison Ford my spring-to-summer, sweater-with-shorts style inspiration. (We need to talk about the shoes, though.)

  • Marveling at the existence of biodegradable glitter. Made from eucalyptus!!! The innovation!!!

  • Getting so much out of Jami Attenberg’s newsletter, which is technically about writing but possibly about everything.

  • Putting my veggie scraps to extremely satisfying use.

  • Flagging a guide to fashion repairs (and remakes) that really brings the cool.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Getting Souped Up

Last year, we really started to question our ambition. This year, it’s perfectionism that’s got our heads spinning. If you want to read some of the books that sparked this convo and lots of others we’ve had on the pod, you can find ‘em here.

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Chasing Scoops

What are we going to be wearing post-pandemic (a term we feel nervous even typing)? We get into it in great detail on the podcast, and we’re pretty desperate to hear your take. Call us! 833-632-5463. DM us!

erica’s things

  • Declaring a new frontrunner in The Great Merch Wars: the ACLU.

  • Following a sk8r boi man on Instagram. Welcome to something I never thought I’d say.

  • Guffawing at the beauty and thoroughness of this plant-care site.

  • Slipping into something that can really only be described as a fitness catsuit. To only have to put on one item of workout clothing!

  • Getting weirdly emotional over a Naomi Klein interview about climate change and...love?

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A Thing or Two We’re Doing Besides Noticing Something Fishy

If you haven’t read the book Black Buck yet, you’re going to be itching to after you listen to the extremely winning author Mateo Askaripour on our podcast this week. Oh, and: If you haven’t checked out the discounts from our podcast sponsors lately, all the coupon codes live over here, ripe for the redeeming.

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