Gift Guide, Part 2: Teens, Bosses, Brothers, and, Duh, Your Mail Carrier
Welcome to Gift Guide Podcast, the Sequel: Presents Requested. (Can you tell we’re a little slap-happy after recording these eps?) If you haven’t tuned in for part one, here’s the deal: We’ve got lots of ideas from small businesses, many owned by women and BIPOC, (and none from Amazon)—and we have thoughts on organizations to donate to in someone’s honor, too. Are you ready for all the thoughts? Great, let’s get into it. Oh, and if you just can’t get enough, our 2019 installments are here and here.
Welcome to Gift Guide Podcast, the Sequel: Presents Requested. (Can you tell we’re a little slap-happy after recording these eps?) If you haven’t tuned in for part one, here’s the deal: We’ve got lots of ideas from small businesses, many owned by women and BIPOC, (and none from Amazon)—and we have thoughts on organizations to donate to in someone’s honor, too. Are you ready for all the thoughts? Great, let’s get into it. Oh, and if you just can’t get enough, our 2019 installments are here and here.
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BROTHERS!
21 year old brother who has a new passion/major every week. Techie, creative, loves pasta.
Grossy Pelosi merch: This Too Shall Pasta or Live Laugh Lasagna
Designy pasta book: The Silver Spoon or The Geometry of Pasta
Memoirs of people who found/made their own way: Notes from a Young Black Chef by Kwame Onwuachi, Just Kids by Patti Smith, and The Autobiography of Gucci Mane
Subscription to Courier magazine
Little brother, loves foreign affairs, about to graduate from college, very classic taste
Subscription to Stranger’s Guide, The Atlantic, Monocle, or ProPublica
A watch! Todd Snyder x Timex collab or Hodinkee for Swatches.
21 y.o. Lil bro who is way cooler than me. Into the outdoors, vintage jackets, anime.
My 30 y.o. lefty anti-capitalist brother who secretly really likes buying things.
Something Patagonia WornWear ReCrafted or Todd Snyder x L.L. Bean
Leftie merch: Call Your Girlfriend The Scam is Structural Hat or Bernie Sanders Rage Against the Machine T-shirt
Donation to his local mutual aid organization
KIDS!
The 2-year-old that has everything—9 sets of Aunts/Uncles!
A giant, mascot-style costume for an adult to wear—Elmo? Bear?
Kid audio player things: Yoto Player and Tonies
Toy storage: Fabelab bear storage bag and Oh Noo toy wheelbarrow
Donation to National Diaper Bank Project
Kids! Not little but not teens. Bonus for stuff that isn’t tech-based. PLEASE
Cooking thing: Kid in the Kitchen by Melissa Clark or Bella Cucina pastry tart set
Box set of books: Roald Dahl or Puffin in Bloom
Something outdoorsy: Tubbs snowshoes, Hamboard shortboard, or cool roller skates by Chicago Skates, Impala, or Moxi
Tie-dye kit: Horizon Group unicorn tie dye bundle or Tulip tie-dye party
Mary Matson Double Happiness poster (edition of 50, signed and numbered)
TEENS!
Late teen more responsible than me at 30 and already has the lined Birkenstocks.
Olive & June manicure/pedicure system (or just the mani system)
Watercolor sets: Beam Paints, LDBA Palette, Case for Making, or anything from Blick
17-year-old awkward tomboy who has NO opinions on anything she likes
Book that might get her thinking about what she likes/where she’s going: In the Company of Women, Roadtrip Nation’s Roadmap book, Start Where You Are journal, or Is Everyone Hanging Out Without Me? by Mindy Kaling
If she has an iPad: Apple Pencil
BOSSES AND EMPLOYEES!
Design-minded bosses (one male and one female)
Puzzles: Four Point Puzzles, Whiled, and Piecework
Design-y chocolate: Compartes bars or Vesta bonbons
Design-y calendars: 2021 Stendig or Design Letters
Male boss you have a crush on. Should seem to cost about $50 (but ok if it costs more)
Signed book by his fave author: AbeBooks has a very good search tool, and 1stDibs is good for more coffee-table stuff.
Body wash or soap that is just on the cusp of inappropriate—Musgo Real soap on a rope?
Set of two glasses (subtle hint to have a drink together?!): Mia Craft beer glasses, Estelle Colored Glass, or vintage French champagne coupes, maybe with a bottle of something to drink, too.
65-year-old male boss who’s super successful, obsessed with Tesla and health and wellness
Food innovation: Seemore Meats & Veggies sausages or Oishii strawberries
Donation to Partnership for a Healthier America, Back on my Feet, or Fresh Air Fund
If this person is your dad not your boss: Oura ring or Theragun
18 co-workers. I’m their boss.
GRAB BAG!!!
37 weeks pregnant and just want to pick one thing to buy 25 of and call it a day. But what?!
Five-year journal: One Line a Day, Hobonichi 5-year Techno, or Unbound Planner
Plant: Holiday cactus from The Sill or herb collection from Bloomscape
Il Buco Alimentari Sale Fiore or WAJD salt
Planting a tree via Nature Conservancy
Donations to No Kid Hungry or Heifer International
My dog walker who dresses like a Tim Burton character and is 22. $50 - $100
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Something FUN, useful, and a little grown-up for home: Fredericks and Mae cutting board and Areaware table tiles
My mail carrier
Gift card to a coffee shop on your route
Thermos: super classic Stanley one or Zojiruchi ones in more colors
I need special little things for neighbors/mail people/building managers!
Seasonings: Momofuku seasoned salts, Burlap & Barrel spice set, or Westbourne spice trio with recipes
Gift cert for a neighborhood spot that does lunch
OTHER LINKS
Last gift idea, promise: a 6- or 12-month gift sub to Secret Menu.
We are here for all of your thoughts and feedback, always. Get in touch at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and/or @athingortwohq.
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Gift Guide, Part 1: Dads, Sisters-in-Law, and New Quar Romances
You have gift questions, and we have gift answers! Welcome to part one of our second-annual gift guide, where you’ll find so much cool stuff from small businesses (many run by women and BIPOC!), no Amazon links (but you do you), and thoughts on orgs to donate to, too. Part two is coming next week, and last year’s still-relevant installments are here and here. Now, hope you’re prepared for an outrageously long episode recap...
You have gift questions, and we have gift answers! Welcome to part one of our second-annual gift guide, where you’ll find so much cool stuff from small businesses (many run by women and BIPOC!), no Amazon links (but you do you), and thoughts on orgs to donate to, too. Part two is coming next week, and last year’s still-relevant installments are here and here. Now, hope you’re prepared for an outrageously long episode recap...
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PARENTS!
My mom has requested “a new hobby” for Christmas which has sent me spinning. Any ideas? She’s very artsy and already gardens and writes fiction. Knitting hasn’t worked for her due to her arthritis, and she’s a lifelong hater of kitchen activities, most of the cute gifty hobby kits I’ve seen fall into those categories. Stumped!
Fic & non-fic books that will nudge my parents to the left without them realizing it.
What Unites Us by Dan Rather
Evicted by Matthew Desmond
Homegoing by Yaa Gyasi
Good Talk by Mira Jacob
I need gift ideas for my almost 60-year-old, tech-y, suburban dad. Hasn’t finished reading the books he got for Father’s Day but he loves history. Does a lot of biking on his indoor trainer. He has an Apple Watch but we aren’t allowed to get him AirPods because my mom thinks he’ll accidentally put them through the laundry. He likes food/eating/cooking but had a heart attack 3 years ago so we’re not allowed to do fun things (unless they’re low sodium/cholesterol). Usually I try to find an activity (movie, bike, ride to brewery, etc.) but covid makes that hard. So many restrictions!!
Claire puts her airpods through the laundry all the time and they still work! (Mostly.) But for an alt: Rapha x Bang & Olufsen earphones (made for indoor training—bigger than Airpods).
Subscription to the Peloton app to use with his bike (you don’t need the Peloton bike!)
Smart/wake-up clock: Philips SmartSleep, Loftie
Beer-plus-history book: Pilsner: How the Beer of Kings Changed the World
MasterClass: Doris Kearns Goodwin teaches "U.S. Presidential History and Leadership"
Mom and her husband who just bought a new cottage and are DIY fixing it up. The kitchen and garden are especially yucky!
Online landscaping-design apps like Yardzen or Tilly Design
Gardening stuff: Floral Society, Floret, and Father Rabbit
Tools: MoMA Design Store Rainbow Multi-tool set, FIXR tool, and Bosch Blaze laser measurer
Birdhouse: Andreu Carulla's Bird and Breakfast, Amish cottage
Coffee-table books: The Gardens of Bunny Mellon and More than Just a House by Alex Eagle
Donation to Habitat for Humanity
My Jewish parents who are IMPOSSIBLE to shop for and trying to stop eating sugar.
Popcorn seasoning set: The Spice House or Oaktown Spice Shop
Engraved Masala Dabba from Diaspora Co.
Cookbook: Sweet Laurel or Ottolenghi Flavor
Russ & Daughters tote, tee, hat...in R&D wrapping paper!
My crunchy fire-fighting dog lady MIL.
Donation to BARC Shelter in Brooklyn or her local animal shelter (many have wish lists where you can send dog food, etc!)
Stepmom: hates being cold. She’s always cold. But is entertaining outside now in CA.
Hot water bottle: Amara sheepskin and Chickpea knit
Something for cooking warm entertaining food/drink outside: Boska mini raclette cheese melter and grill, Royal Rose hot toddy mixers, or FLÎKR Fire personal concrete fireplace
Flamingo Estate candles—scents like Roma heirloom tomato
SISTERS-IN-LAW!
My sister-in-law is a chic New Yorker and I live in Missoula, Montana. I am a needs-based gifter and she is very much a wants-based gifter. I love to cook, she dabbles in cooking (she’s dairy free) and I think she finds me kind of quaint for my homey ways. She is (and strongly identifies) as an Aries. She is a platinum-rewards-level business traveler and boss babe entrepreneur in the music industry. We get along great, but we literally could not be more different and I am ALWAYS stuck on gifts for her. This year I already gave her a gorgeous coffee table book of NYC night photography that I feel pretty good about, but I need a lifetime stockpile of ideas. Budget is $50- $100
A pretty colored glass thing with utility: a couple Estelle wine glasses, Maison Balzac glasses, carafe, or pitcher, and Laurence Brabant A La Pointe Candle Holder
Anything from Casa Shop—some is new, some is vintage, and it’s all very good.
My very chic sister-in-law who lives in a shoebox in Paris and will need to clear TSA
Glass oil/vinegar decanter: Gary Bodker or Stover Glass
Gilded marble body brush (there’s a mini too!), Kate McLeod body stone
Fancy fashion socks: Darner, Comme Si, and Hansel from Basel
Sister in law who loves to cook. $50 and under
Bamboo steamer + chopsticks + Wing on Wo spoons and chopstick rests (or Pearl River Market)
Trivets: Hawkins cork and Il Buco salvaged antique tile
Home Cooking podcast sweatshirt
Donation to Soul Fire Farm or The Okra Project
HUSBANDS, BOYFRIENDS, AND OTHER UNDEFINED MEN!
A dude who I’ve been seeing since early October. We’re exclusive but not serious….helllp
Slippers: Vince suede and shearling, Yoko Wool
Cool lighter (and possibly candle—Norden??): Tetra slide lighter or Tsubota Pearl tortoise lighter
Nice bottle o’ booze—the one a shelf or two above what he buys himself
A game for two that you can learn to play together: dominos from Printworks, Wolfum, or Fredricks & Mae; 2-in-1 chess/checkers Set from Ridley’s or MoMA
Fiance! Together 8 years, postponed wedding. Xmas AND his bday SAME WEEK!
A piece of art—maybe decide to pick it out together for Xmas (and then you only have to shop for his bday): Picture Room or Absolut Art
You could even reach out to an artist you like on IG and ask about commissions!
Custom neon sign with something you two say or your initials : Yellowpop or Brite Lite
Something sentimental framed via The Heirloomist
A 35-year-old man who loves sports, his dog, his Jeep, the Cubs and classic music.
Dog bed: Dusen Dusen or Found My Animal
A 37-year-old suburban dad who misses dance parties and loves the Book Review
Turntable and mixer
FRIENDS!
My long-distance bestie and I turned 30 this year and we’d originally planned on going on a trip together and getting welded gold bracelets as some grown-up version of friendship bracelets. However, THESE TIMES(™). So now she’s moving from Toronto (same country) to New Zealand (different hemisphere! Different continent!). We thought we’d do some sort of big co-gift! Pertinent details for your brainstorming pleasure: She’s a Capricorn (reluctantly) and I’m an extremely Pisces Pisces (love 2 cry). Budget is up to $200ish. Needs to be mildly packable considering she has to get it to NZ somehow along with the rest of her earthly possessions. Needs to ship to Canada. LOVE YOU!
Fancy pair of stud earrings—you each take one. Or singles of White/Space birthstone studs.
Catbird smallest love letter charm or tiniest key charm that you can get engraved
Some sort of art/print: Tappan and Uprise Art
Group text friends
A little food thing: Rice & Miso Everyday soup ball things (if in Brooklyn!); Copper Cow Coffee Vietnamese-style pour-over, Kusmi Tea set with 12 diff flavors, or Sakara popcorn trio
A mask or mask chain that’s a little more *special*: Lizzie Fortunato, Diarrablu, Injuri, Baggu
Porcelain fortune cookies that you can slip a fortune/wish for them for 2021 into
An ornament related to an inside joke
Three Potato Four key tags, specifically the "thank you for being a friend" one
GRAB BAG!!!
My great-grandma who lives across the country and has never met my baby, because COVID
Calendar with pics of your baby: Artifact Uprising brass easel and Parabo Press classic desk cal
Locket with pic of your baby: Catbird (can be engraved!)
People whose hobbies are “going for walks in the neighborhood.”
Fanny pack: Tory Sport color-block, Baggu, or Beklina ribbed leather
Hiking/all-weather boots: Bernardo Winnie
Puffer scarf: Echo, Eileen Fisher, or Patagonia NanoPuff Scarf
Someone who hates things/prefers experiences, but with Covid it’s hard to experience!
Online cooking class: Sonoko Sakai, Goldbelly Live! Cook-Alongs, League of Kitchens, Momofuku, and Ole & Obrigado.
Things to enjoy the experience of winter: Yaktrax, Crescent Moon eva foam snowshoes, or cross-country ski lessons
Merch from favorite restaurant/hotel/place they’ve traveled to
Games: Ridley’s Card Games, Actually Curious, Lacorsa Grand Prix Board Game, Maharam Memory Game, or Helvetiq Matchmaster or SixStix
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You know what else makes a great gift—a digital stocking stuffer, if you will? A sub to Secret Menu.
Do you have other ideas and just thoughts in general to share? Hit us up at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and/or @athingortwohq.
On 12/21, we’re going to be talking about the romance novel Reckless by Selena Montgomery (aka Stacey Abrams). Join us for a read-along!
Running a Record Label With Sam Valenti IV...and Eating Artichokes With Us
Here we are, asking the important questions, including “What’s it like to start a record label and run it for 20 years?” and “Who in their right mind decided to eat an artichoke for the first time?” Sam Valenti IV, behind the very compelling Ghostly International, has all the answers to our first query, and we don’t think we’ll ever really get to the heart (heh) of our second.
Here we are, asking the important questions, including “What’s it like to start a record label and run it for 20 years?” and “Who in their right mind decided to eat an artichoke for the first time?” Sam Valenti IV, behind the very compelling Ghostly International, has all the answers to our first query, and we don’t think we’ll ever really get to the heart (heh) of our second.
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Best use of an Instant Pot: cookin’ artichokes.
Oddly enthusiastic endorsement: vintage Majorcan and Portuguese artichoke plates.
A couple good ways to put a can/jar of artichokes to good use: sardine pasta and back-pocket canned salad.
Dig into Sam Valenti’s Ghostly International—both the musical artists (including the label’s very first, Matthew Dear) and the products. Also, follow Ghostly’s playlists—their “At Work” one in particular.
A few Brooklyn record stores worthy of Sam’s fandom: Rough Trade, Academy Records, and Captured Tracks Shop.
When Sam’s looking to discover new music, he can always count on Buy Music Club, Blackbandcamp.info, and Numero Group to deliver.
AND! A handful of other things we talked about: Blue Note Records: Beyond the Notes, That Thing You Do!, The Last Dance, and the podcast How Long Gone.
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Some Holiday Shopping Thoughts and Weirdo Wine Pairings with Vanessa Price
Is this the beginning of one very strange holiday season to cap off one very strange year? It’s starting to feel like it, and we have some ~initial thoughts~ on how to wrap your head around gifts and a whole bunch o’ thoughts from Vanessa Price—who co-wrote the wonderful book Big Macs and Burgundy—on pairing wine with the things your actually eat, including the last of the leftover Halloween candy and whatever Thanksgiving dinner looks like in 2020.
Is this the beginning of one very strange holiday season to cap off one very strange year? It’s starting to feel like it, and we have some ~initial thoughts~ on how to wrap your head around gifts and a whole bunch o’ thoughts from Vanessa Price—who co-wrote the wonderful book Big Macs and Burgundy—on pairing wine with the things your actually eat, including the last of the leftover Halloween candy and whatever Thanksgiving dinner looks like in 2020.
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Gift guide eps are coming up!! If there are people you want us to shop for, tell us everything about them at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and @athingortwohq.
Buy Big Macs and Burgundy, the book Vanessa Price co-wrote with our pal Adam Laukhuf. P.S., it also makes a great gift.
Vanessa’s column for New York mag that led to the book—including that first Sour Patch Kids installment and the very trying s’mores one.
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Lani Halliday’s Booming Pandemic Baked Goods and the Third-Party Hello
You can only comfort yourself with so many baked goods, it seems, but we’ve found a workaround: We’re putting them in our ears instead of our mouths. What a joy it was to sit down with Lani Halliday, who is making the best inclusive pastries around and unveiled her first physical outpost of Brutus Bakeshop during the pandemic. Yes: She’s very bold, and we’re very obsessed.
You can only comfort yourself with so many baked goods, it seems, but we’ve found a workaround: We’re putting them in our ears instead of our mouths. What a joy it was to sit down with Lani Halliday, who is making the best inclusive pastries around and unveiled her first physical outpost of Brutus Bakeshop during the pandemic. Yes: She’s very bold, and we’re very obsessed.
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If you’re in NYC, grab Lani Halliday’s baked goods at Brutus Bakeshop in Crown Heights (and get some amazing New Mexican food from Eric See’s Ursula while you’re there!). If you’re anywhere else, buy her (vegan, GF, soy-free) miso chocolate chip cookies on the internet and keep your eyes peeled for her pop tarts and more, more, more.
More on the Independent Restaurant Coalition—um, 11 million people in the U.S. are independent restaurant employees!
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Who Needs a Distraction?? We Have the Grab Bag Just for You.
Yeah, so, it’s gonna be a real week, and if you’re interested in escaping the tweets, push alerts, and polling data for a few, we have some celeb gossip, book recs, and sweaters to cozy up to.
Yeah, so, it’s gonna be a real week, and if you’re interested in escaping the tweets, push alerts, and polling data for a few, we have some celeb gossip, book recs, and sweaters to cozy up to.
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The very best celeb gossip sources, if you ask us: E! News IG stories, Jam Session, Deux Moi, Gossip Time, The Shade Room, Who? Weekly, Bossip, and Just Jared Jr.
The couple Claire’s shipping: Harry Styles and Tracee Ellis Ross. This pic + this clip. Believe what you want. And just read The Idea of You already if you haven’t.
And, now for beliebing: Erica is intrigued with Justin and Hailey Bieber’s domestic life. This post and this post and a Facebook Watch thing called Baking with the Biebers. Somehow related: Levain Bakery cookies.
Two books that are distracting and immersive (but not light!): The Death of Vivek Oji by Akwaeke Emezi and Leave the World Behind by Rumaan Alam (hear Rumaan on a 2018 ep of our pod, too!).
Gang, it’s sweater weather. Brands we love: Demylee, Jenni Kayne, Alex Mill, Acme Studios, Babaà, Ply-Knits, Leret Leret, Ryan Roche, Sézane, Mijeong Park, and Atelier Delphine.
Have something to share? Call us: 833-632-5463. Love those VMs.
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Breaking Beauty and Baby Vanity Sizing
We love hot industry intel and gossip! Of all industries, really! And when it comes to the land of hyaluronic acid, celeb makeup lines, and derm backlash, no one gives it better than Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins of the Breaking Beauty Podcast. But before we go deeeeeep down that rabbithole, we need to answer one pressing question: What looks will Cam be working for fall 2020?!
We love hot industry intel and gossip! Of all industries, really! And when it comes to the land of hyaluronic acid, celeb makeup lines, and derm backlash, no one gives it better than Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins of the Breaking Beauty Podcast. But before we go deeeeeep down that rabbithole, we need to answer one pressing question: What looks will Cam be working for fall 2020?!
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What’s Cam wearing this fall?! Some combination of babyGap (beware of baby vanity sizing!!!), Petit Bateau, Búho, Emile et Ida, Bobo Choses, Oeuf, Poudre Organic, Lewis, Tinycottons, and Patagonia (this vest!). For these brands and lots more, Claire’s all about scraping the sale sections on Smallable, Scandiborn, and Melijoe. And when it comes to shoes: Native, AF1s, Air Jordans, and Timberlands, scuffed-up ideally.
To get so much more of Jill and Carlene, subscribe to the Breaking Beauty Podcast.
Scientists giving their clean-beauty takes: Dr. Michelle Wong (@labmuffinbeautyscience), Stephen Ko (@kindofstephen), and Jen Novakovich (@theecowell).
Some makeup/beauty things having a pandemic moment: LoveSeen fake lashes, Foreo microcurrent bear, root cover-up powders from Color Wow and Clairol, and Christophe Robin temporary hair color.
Splashy new launches: Rare Beauty by Selena Gomez, Makeup by Mario, One/Size by Patrick Starrr, and Forvr Mood by Jackie Aina.
Skincare ingredients in masks! But of course! Check out The HydraFacial Company's FaceLife copper-infused masks and YoRo Naturals' zinc masks and Masque Bar’s hydrogel masks specifically to wear under PPE.
WOC-owned brands to watch (and founders to follow!): Uoma Beauty, founded by Sharon Chuter, who started #PullUpForChange; Cheekbone Beauty, from the Canadian Indigenous founder Jenn Harper; Ami Colé, which is pre-launch and founded by the Glossier and L'Oréal alum Diarrha N'Diaye. Oh, and the derm Dr. Alexis Stephens, too.
For more on colorism and skin-lightening, check out Priya Rao’s Unfair podcast for Glossy.
Affordable and efficacious skincare: Maelove, Good (Skin) Days, Inn Beauty Project, Everyday Humans, and Versed.
Waterless beauty—COOL. OWA Haircare and aN-Hydra Skincare are making big moves, and we’re big fans of the Odacité Green Ceremony Cleanser.
Companies doing good stuff around refillable packaging and recycling: Terracycle, Tata Harper and their new Waterlock Moisturizer, Kjaer Weis, Clé de Peau Beauté, Charlotte Tilbury, and Native.
The 2020 ingredient: Niacinamide.
Skinfluencers worth following: Caroline Hirons, Skincare by Hyram, DermAngelo, and, but of course, Dr. Sandra Lee (aka Dr. Pimple Popper).
Call us! 833-632-5463! DM us! @athingortwohq! KIT, basically.
Checking in on Each Other
You know, it feels like we haven’t asked each other “So, how are you doing? Really?” in a bit, and we’re taking this podcast as an opportunity to do that. We get into pandemic socializing, news-consumption, and soup-making. Recommended pairing for this ep: a walk.
You know, it feels like we haven’t asked each other “So, how are you doing? Really?” in a bit, and we’re taking this podcast as an opportunity to do that. We get into pandemic socializing, news-consumption, and soup-making. Recommended pairing for this ep: a walk.
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A couple NYC-specific food things helping us get by: Pierless Fish for seafood and For All Things Good for masa for Claire’s taco nights.
Chris’s new desk, and Thomas’s recent read Hate Inc. that’s informing Erica’s media consumption.
The gray-on-gray-on-gray Birkenstock shearling clogs Claire scored, and the Hobonichi planner that’s keeping Erica’s 2021 mood up.
It’s (coconut-milk) soup weather, ok? Erica’s making coconut curry noodle soup from The Woks of Life, coconut corn soup from Smitten Kitchen, and curried lentil, tomato, coconut soup by Yotam Ottolenghi.
For running in the cold, Claire recommends a Patagonia down hoody and neck gaiter, a Uniqlo down vest, and Yaktrax for snow/ice. Also, The Strategist has a good guide by temp, and Runner’s World will give you gearing-up recs based on the conditions.
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Mammograms and Colonoscopies! Not as Awful as We Thought!
Our doctor visits are your doctor visits! Or something! Kidding aside-ish, we figured sharing our recent mammogram and colonoscopy experiences might make them at least a smidge less anxiety-inducing for you, and we’re very here for that. Join us on our healthcare journeys, won’t you?
Our doctor visits are your doctor visits! Or something! Kidding aside-ish, we figured sharing our recent mammogram and colonoscopy experiences might make them at least a smidge less anxiety-inducing for you, and we’re very here for that. Join us on our healthcare journeys, won’t you?
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Some guidance on when to start getting mammograms: 40 per the Mayo Clinic, 45 per the American Cancer Society, and 50 per the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force. So: a real talk-to-your-doctor type of situation!
Some guidance on when to start getting colorectal screenings: 45 per the American Cancer Society. (But ya know: Ask your dr.)
Fancy Brodo bone broth for colonoscopy prep or just, like, life!
Colonics: still having a moment (we guess?).
Breast self-exams! The "Touch Your Tits" vid from Mae Ryan and Mona Chalabi is a great how-to.
If you like what you heard here and want more, Secret Menu is for you.
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What It’s Like to Run for Congress with Adair Ford Boroughs
HEY, we’re back from hiatus! And like everyone else, we’re stressing (spiraling?) about the election constantly. This week, we’re talking to Adair Ford Boroughs about what it’s like to actually be on the ticket—she’s the very impressive and overqualified Democratic candidate running for Congress in South Carolina’s Second District—and our big plans for election day (spoiler: bein’ poll workers).
HEY, we’re back from hiatus! And like everyone else, we’re stressing (spiraling?) about the election constantly. This week, we’re talking to Adair Ford Boroughs about what it’s like to actually be on the ticket—she’s the very impressive and overqualified Democratic candidate running for Congress in South Carolina’s Second District—and our big plans for election day (spoiler: bein’ poll workers).
The linkage:
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We’re volunteering to be poll workers. Do you wanna do it, too?! Check out some stats about the typical poll-worker demo (spoiler: high Covid risk!) via NPR and a very useful IG story from Helen Rosner about her experience doing this in past years.
Snuffleupagus getting nosy in the voting booth during a 1957 episode of Sesame Street. (And, bless, he is still on the show!)
Dig into all of the many ways you can support Adair Ford Boroughs and her run for Congress. Donate! Phone or text bank! Share her campaign videos! Whether or not you’re in South Carolina!
Another big South Carolina race to watch and support: Jaime Harrison for Senate.
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Ok, MoMA Design Store’s Design Innovations for Women Are Blowing Our Minds
Two things we love: 1) women’s bodies 2) problem-solving. So imagine our delight when we discovered that MoMA Design Store put together a whole freaking beautiful, educational, and useful pop-up around Design Innovations for Women. In partnership with the MoMA Design Store team, we sat down with Chay Costello and Alex Glazer, the buyers responsible for spearheading this initiative who, yes, also happen to be work wives. We talk menstruation, motherhood, menopause—and you bet your vulvas we asked what it’s like to discuss these topics at the office.
Two things we love: 1) women’s bodies 2) problem-solving. So imagine our delight when we discovered that MoMA Design Store put together a whole freaking beautiful, educational, and useful pop-up around Design Innovations for Women. In partnership with the MoMA Design Store team, we sat down with Chay Costello and Alex Glaser, the buyers responsible for spearheading this initiative who, yes, also happen to be work wives. We talk menstruation, motherhood, menopause—and you bet your vulvas we asked what it’s like to discuss these topics at the office.
The linkage:
You can shop MoMA Design Store’s groundbreaking Design Innovations for Women pop-up online and at their Soho store in NYC until September 27. So, so, sooo good.
A couple of previous podcast eps relevant to this conversation: Pledging to Shop Better and What to Expect When Claire’s Expecting.
Michelle Obama’s recent pod ep on menopause—definitely worth a listen.
A few of Claire’s personal faves in the Design Innovations for Women mix: the Elvie Kegel Smart Trainer and the Haakaa Generation 2 Breast Pump.
For more on Chay Costello, Alex Glaser, and the MoMA Design Store merchandising team, hit up 99U.
Some things and people Chay and Alex looked to as they pulled together this pop-up: Sssh! Periods podcast, Dame’s reusable tampon applicator (available in the UK!), Darcey Steinke’s Flash Count Diary: Menopause and the Vindication of Natural Life, Michelle Fisher and Amber Winick’s Designing Motherhood project, designer of the first bike saddle for women Georgena Terry, designers of the first sports bra (the Jogbra!) Lisa Lindahl and Polly Smith, Womanly magazine, The Unmentionables podcast from Nyssa, and the pelvic-floor physical therapist Sara Reardon a.k.a. @the.vagina.whisperer.
Just a handful of the almost 50 products part of this design movement v. worth checking out: Aisle Period Undies Boxer Brief, TOP The Organic Project Cotton Tampons with Plant-Based Applicator, DivaCup, Elvie Double Breast Pump, The Period Game, Penny Pack First Period Kit, and MoMA Champion Sports Bra.
Leave us reviews, voicemails (833-632-5463), IG direct messages (@athingortwohq)!
We’re going to be on hiatus for the next few weeks! We’ll be re-airing some recent greatest hits, but if you miss us deep in your bones, might we direct you to Secret Menu?
Why We Need Color in Our Homes Now...And the Joy of Kacey Musgraves Merch
Yes, we like white walls and pale wood, but our eyes need some *excitement* these days, and we have a whole bunch of ways to give ‘em what they require (without going full Gigi Hadid maximalist). Also worth adding to your “Hues You Can Use” moodboard: just about everything in Kacey Musgraves’s merch shop.
Yes, we like white walls and pale wood, but our eyes need some *excitement* these days, and we have a whole bunch of ways to give ‘em what they require (without going full Gigi Hadid maximalist). Also worth adding to your “Hues You Can Use” moodboard: just about everything in Kacey Musgraves’s merch shop.
The linkage:
More where this came from c/o Secret Menu! (Click-y name, right?!)
All hail Merch Queen Kacey Musgraves! This longsleeve tee, this velvet poster, her Boy Smells collab Slow Burn candle (and companion Burn in a Hurry lighter), the Lonely Weekend Self-Care Kit, High Time rolling papers, an ugly Christmas sweater, and faux snow (but of course?).
Breaking August news: Kacey’s Christmas album really is so good (and can we talk about this Dolly Parton holiday album announcement?!).
Some of the places we’re getting our colorful interior inspiration: Tina Seidenfaden Busck’s The Residence, Matilda Goad, Justina Blakeney, Ellen van Dusen’s Brooklyn home, Beata Heuman, Laurel Broughton’s Echo Park house, Luis Barragán, and Tony Duquette.
Claire has a green couch! That she loves! It’s the Clad Home Dawson Sleeper in Klein Emerald.
Erica has one (1) wall of wallpaper! She’s obsessed! It’s Josef Frank’s Paradiset.
Tabletop stuff! Wolfum trays, bright taper candles, Opinel steak knives.
Colorful glassware! Lateral Objects, R+D.Lab, Estelle Colored Glass, Keane.
Furniture! The Inside, Inside Weather, Hay, Eric Trine / Amigo Modern, Interior Define.
Ceramics! Studio Hecha, Raina Lee, Concrete Cat, Russel Wright, Fiestaware, Year & Day, Massimo Vignelli for Heller, Raawii.
Lights! La Veste, Eo Ipso, Casa Cosima, Commune.
Textiles! Hillery Sproatt, Dusen Dusen, Aelfie, Tantuvi, Cold Picnic, Society of Wanderers, Marimekko, Bolé Road Textiles.
Paint! Clare, Backdrop, Farrow & Ball.
Related: the Farrow & Ball New Yorker story.
If you want more on colorful home stuff, check our ep with our trade-show recap.
We’re here for your thoughts: DMs to @athingortwohq, voicemails at 833-632-5463, or reviews of this podcast are always welcome.
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The TV Shows and Movies We Won’t Shut up About. And Also Boiled Potatoes.
When you are expressing gratitude these days, are you appropriately prayer-hand-emoji for video streaming (and, frankly, the streaming wars that are keeping us so deep in good content)? We’re taking this week’s ep as an opportunity to really lay our thanks on thick—for The Fight, I May Destroy You, Shrill, and Love on the Spectrum specifically. Light spoilers in some spots (and possibly too much excitement in others).
When you are expressing gratitude these days, are you appropriately prayer-hand-emoji for video streaming (and, frankly, the streaming wars that are keeping us so deep in good content)? We’re taking this week’s ep as an opportunity to really lay our thanks on thick—for The Fight, I May Destroy You, Shrill, and Love on the Spectrum specifically. Light spoilers in some spots (and possibly too much excitement in others).
The linkage:
First things first: boiled potatoes!! With seafood, in a niçoise salad, and as leftovers...which gets you halfway to fried or roasted potatoes like Julia Turshen’s Kinda Sorta Patatas Bravas or these crispy roasted potatoes with burrata.
Also, congrats to white potatoes on joining the Whole30 club. Sorry the announcement of this news didn’t feature a more flattering photo of you all.
Ok, second things second: our watch list. The Fight available for rent on various platforms, I May Destroy You on HBO Max, Shrill (Season 2 specifically) on Hulu, and Love on the Spectrum on Netflix.
Some further reading around Love on the Spectrum: a Time review by Sarah Kurchak, an article from The Cut that runs through the criticisms, and a piece from the Los Angeles Times that gets into the filming behind-the-scenes.
What else should we be watching? Tell us at @athingortwohq or 833-632-5463.
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Tune into the Everything Is Fine podcast with Tally Abecassis and Kim France.
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Jamie Beck on Creating in Isolation—and Us on Ditching “You Guys”
Big day, team! We’re catching up with our very favorite photographer, Jamie Beck, who moved to Provence, France, longer ago than we like to acknowledge and who has been creating all kinds of greatness recently—much of which you can even purchase for the first time. Friends, let’s dive in.
Big day, team! We’re catching up with our very favorite photographer, Jamie Beck, who moved to Provence, France, longer ago than we like to acknowledge and who has been creating all kinds of greatness recently—much of which you can even purchase for the first time. Friends, let’s dive in.
The linkage:
Ok, you have to follow Jamie Beck on Instagram for the full behind-the-scenes.
Jamie’s incredible #IsolationCreation project, which she invited her community to contribute to (and, whoa, did people!).
Lucky us! Jamie started selling her work, in the form art posters featuring her isolation creations—and there’s a signed, limited-edition finale poster coming, too (along with phone cases, camera straps, fine art, stationery, journals, a couple books…).
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Our DMs and voicemails are open! Get us at @athingortwohq or 833-632-5463.
Questioning Ambition
What is ambition anyway? And ambition toward what? Join us as we contemplate—and, frankly, give side-eye to—one of the driving forces of our lives.
What is ambition anyway? And ambition toward what? Join us as we contemplate—and, frankly, give side-eye to—one of the driving forces of our lives.
The linkage:
WOW, Maris Kreizman’s “Where Did My Ambition Go?” essay. (It’s probably worth following Maris on Twitter too, while you’re at it.)
Tavi Gevinson on shutting down Rookie, and Grace Bonney on shutting down Design*Sponge.
The profiles of The Chicks and Viola Davis that resonated.
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That Quar Fitness Routine and the Magic of Shea Butter with Naa-Sakle Akuete
However many months in, we’ve found our fitnessing-at-home rhythms (which, no, do not involve dance cardio). Also! We’ve landed on a way to keep our very clean hands moisturized: shea butter, specifically the stuff from Eu’Genia Shea, and we clearly needed to talk to the company’s founder Naa-Sakle Akuete for the inside scoop.
However many months in, we’ve found our fitnessing-at-home rhythms (which, no, do not involve dance cardio). Also! We’ve landed on a way to keep our very clean hands moisturized: shea butter, specifically the stuff from Eu’Genia Shea, and we clearly needed to talk to the company’s founder Naa-Sakle Akuete for the inside scoop.
The linkage:
Have thoughts? We want your DMs and VMs! Get us at @athingortwohq or 833-632-5463.
Online fitness stuff we’re now in long-term relationships with: the Peloton app, Melissa Wood Health (which you can try out on her IGTV), Revolution Motherhood, Exercise Snacks, Sky Ting Live & TV, and Kate Posch’s streaming yoga classes.
Home equipment worth the investment (in money and space!): Bala Bangles, Manduka cork yoga blocks, the Exercise Snacks Snack Pack, and a Jade Yoga Harmony mat.
We’re so very into Naa-Sakle Akuete’s company Eu’Genia Shea and its stocked-at-Target spinoff, Mother’s Shea.
More info on the Target Takeoff Accelerator program Naa-Sakle went through.
Other beauty brands Naa-Sakle wholeheartedly endorses: Sahajan, One Love Organics, True Moringa, Kreyòl Essence, and Thrive Causemetics.
If you want more from us, let us direct you to Secret Menu, which, for four bucks a month, gets you a members-only newsletter every dang week.
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The Baby-Sitters Club and Dating in This Particularly Insane Time with Lindsey Metselaar
As two married gals getting older by the day, this ep feels like a real throwback. We’re talking babysitting and dating—the latter with Lindsey Metselaar, the savvy host of the We Met at Acme podcast who knows much more about the topic than we do at this point. Something we’re obviously NOT talking about: inviting the person you’re dating to the house you’re babysitting at without permission.
As two married gals getting older by the day, this ep feels like a real throwback. We’re talking babysitting and dating—the latter with Lindsey Metselaar, the savvy host of the We Met at Acme podcast who knows much more about the topic than we do at this point. Something we’re obviously NOT talking about: inviting the person you’re dating to the house you’re babysitting at without permission.
The linkage:
Do you know about our Secret Menu? It’s our new thingy where, for $4 a month, you get access to weekly members-only newsletters.
You’ve heard about The Baby-Sitters Club Netflix reboot? Course you have.
Further BSC reading: Michelle Ruiz for Vogue.com, Gal Beckerman for NYT, Katie Baker for The Ringer, and The Hollywood Reporter interview with the showrunner Rachel Shukert. Further listening: The Baby-Sitters Club Club podcast!
Tune into Lindsey’s podcast We Met at Acme to get your regular dating updates and intel.
the sponsors (and promos!):
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Powdered SPF, Single-Blade Razors, and the Tyranny of Gas Stoves
Oh, it’s just us, with a little to say about a whole lot of things! There’s some playlisting, some cookbooking, some sunblocking, some angsting—you’ll see when you dive in.
Oh, it’s just us, with a little to say about a whole lot of things! There’s some playlisting, some cookbooking, some sunblocking, some angsting—you’ll see when you dive in.
The linkage:
We have a new thing! It’s called Secret Menu, and, for $4 a month, you get access to a very special members-only newsletter. Yes, intriguing.
Powdered SPF! We’re all about it, especially for babies, scalps, and pandemic scenarios when you definitely don’t want to be touching your face in public. Brush On Block is our new (translucent) go-to.
The source of our playlist-for-the-ages tip: the wonderful Cat Dash. Related: Spotify’s Time Capsule feature.
The quick version of what Claire refers to as the gospel theory of activism.
A recent installment of Courtney Martin’s newsletter and one of Mona Chalabi’s excellent graphics compare the duration of the current BLM protests to the Montgomery bus boycott.
This Mother Jones article "The Gas Industry Is Paying Instagram Influencers to Gush Over Gas Stoves" 1) is about so much more than that headline conveys and 2) got us RILED. Sigh, related: Pregnancy risks related to air pollution disproportionately impact Black mothers.
Our most recent book purchases by Black authors (for ourselves and for gifts!): Vegetable Kingdom by Bryant Terry, The Dooky Chase Cookbook by Leah Chase, The Cooking Gene by Michael W. Twitty, Take a Hint, Dani Brown by Talia Hibbert, and Felix Ever After by Kacen Callender.
The single-blade Oui razor—so chic, so worth it! Read this Glossy interview with the founder Karen Young for more context (paid subscription required).
Check out the Encyclopedia Womannica podcast! Every weekday, there’s a new, five-minute episode introducing game-changing women throughout history.
Going Big on Big Friendship with Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman
Um, aspirational friendship alert!! We’re bringing you THE Ann Friedman and Aminatou Sow, hosts of the podcast Call Your Girlfriend, brilliant minds behind Shine Theory, and authors of the book Big Friendship that all of your pals are going to be talking about on the group text. They’ve gotten practice writing—and talking—about the hard things in their relationship and working through conflict and, in doing so, are downright inspirational. But what’s new?
Um, aspirational friendship alert!! We’re bringing you THE Ann Friedman and Aminatou Sow, hosts of the podcast Call Your Girlfriend, brilliant minds behind Shine Theory, and authors of the book Big Friendship that all of your pals are going to be talking about on the group text. They’ve gotten practice writing—and talking—about the hard things in their relationship and working through conflict and, in doing so, are downright inspirational. But what’s new?
The linkage:
Big Friendship! Have you ordered your copy yet?!?!
If you aren’t consuming all that Amina and Ann create, get on that—starting with Call Your Girlfriend and Shine Theory.
To share any and all thoughts with us, DM us on IG at @athingortwohq or leave us a VM at 833-632-5463.
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House Shoes and Our Favorite Contemporary Novels by Black Authors
Slip on your comfiest shoes (ideally the ones that don’t go outdoors?) and get ready to curl up with a good book—or, rather, our enthusiastic endorsements of 26 novels by Black authors. YA and romance included, duh.
Slip on your comfiest shoes (ideally the ones that don’t go outdoors?) and get ready to curl up with a good book—or, rather, our enthusiastic endorsements of 26 novels by Black authors. YA and romance included, duh.
The linkage:
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Some (Birkenstock-y) house-shoe picks: Arizona Essentials EVA, Boston Essentials EVA, and Boston Suede with Shearling.
NOVELS BY BLACK AUTHORS! That we love! Such a Fun Age by Kiley Reid; Behold the Dreamers by Imbolo Mbue; The Idea of You by Robinne Lee; The Wedding Date, The Proposal, The Wedding Party, and more (!!) by Jasmine Guillory; The Nickel Boys (and next up: Sag Harbor) by Colson Whitehead; My Sister, the Serial Killer by Oyinkan Braithwaite; American Spy by Lauren Wilkinson; What We Lose by Zinzi Clemmons; An American Marriage and Silver Sparrow by Tayari Jones; The Mothers (and next up: The Vanishing Half) by Brit Bennett; Another Brooklyn by Jacqueline Woodson; Homegoing (up next: Transcendent Kingdom) by Yaa Gyasi; We Love You, Charlie Freeman by Kaitlyn Greenidge; Americanah and The Thing Around Your Neck by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie.
YA NOVELS! With the Fire on High by Elizabeth Acevedo; The Hate U Give and On the Come Up by Angie Thomas; The Sun is Also a Star and Everything, Everything by Nicola Yoon.
Listen to Tayari Jones on our podcast or on Death, Sex & Money (where she talks about getting a call from Oprah!).